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Bill Potts moderated a panel consisting of Chuck O’Neil, Wayne Luney and
Leon Lefson. Chuck led with definitions of humanism, morality and ethics.
Leon followed by correlating societal morality to economic structure as
viewed through a Marxist lens. Leon’s commentary pointed to Marxism as
being a morally superior economic model because of its attempts to
overcome greed and promote altruistic outcomes. He pointed out that Marx
came to his conclusions after in-depth study of societies that came before
and the economic models they embraced.
Wayne Luney quickly disassociated himself from Marxism and countered
Leon’s opinion that Marxism failed, not because it was flawed, but because
Western forces systematically undermined it. Wayne continued by making an
argument against moral relativism. He pointed out that he felt some
morality crossed all cultural boundaries, negating the idea that what is
good for people in one society might not be good for those in another.
Instead he argued by way of example that morality laws in Saudi Arabia
prohibiting certain sexual behavior, even in the privacy of one’s own
home, punishable by death, constitute an immoral code of conduct.
Chuck O’Neil claimed a middle ground between Wayne’s largely capitalist
point of view and Leon’s Marxist point of view. He reiterated in his own
words Wayne’s take on moral relativism. He stated that he feels our
institutions including economic ones develop based partially on the
physical situations we find ourselves in. He said too that he isn’t a
moral relativist to the extent that he feels the Golden Rule is a
universal moral constant.
When questions from the audience were called for, Paul Geisert took issue
with Leon’s claim that children are born as a blank slate, or “tabula
rasa,” countering with certainty that roughly fifty percent of who we are
is determined by genetics supported by numerous twin studies.
Other threads of discussion that ensued were the tribal preservation
motivation in decisions of war and peace, the role of education in
providing people with the tools to form moral frameworks, oil dependence
(and how we deal with it) as an obstacle to peace, and a brief digression
into matters of historical fact surrounding the conflict near the end of
World War II between the Germans and the Soviet Union.
Interestingly, more than once, members found themselves expressing common
ground with others having opposing points of view. A measure of the
success of this meeting was expressed by Bill Potts, who pointed out the
meeting could easily extend for many more hours.
Report prepared by Brian Jones, Recorder
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